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ex-l

Re: Why the Brahma Kumaris Lost a VIP Follower

22 May 2020

He tells his story in more detail here, Frocky horror , including reference to his Catholic upbringing. What he does not mention is the other side of the story, how the thrill of having a "famous person" appear to validates BKism for followers and encourages them on, hence all the BKs' foc...
ex-l

Why the Brahma Kumaris Lost a VIP Follower

22 May 2020

An old story but one that I had not read before. Why a famous musician, frontman Kevin Rowland of Dexys Midnight Runners, left the Brahma Kumaris after objecting their apocalyptic teachings. The story is the same as ever ... BK exploit low point in individual's life, attracting them in with misleadi...
ex-l

Re: Brahma Kumaris at Abu Rd Shutdown due to Covid-19

20 May 2020

Do you know anything about the relationships between the BKs in Mount Abu, local residents, and the local government? The two events are not mutually exclusive. I don't know which campus who was at. There have been a number of special trains returning home something like 2,000 ( I think it is ) BKs ...
ex-l

Re: Brahma Kumaris at Abu Rd Shutdown due to Covid-19

20 May 2020

Sounds like your dad is resentful of being bound in family life. The BKs create a multi-tier system of worth. What is the word they have for it, was it "adi-kumar" or "half-brother" for a married man? And "mothers-in-bondage" for wives with children? Could be another a...
ex-l

Re: Brahma Kumaris at Abu Rd Shutdown due to Covid-19

20 May 2020

It's not quite there yet, but how about Alt-wise; an ideological grouping associated with extremely ungrounded, or idiotic beliefs, characterized by a rejection of mainstream philosophy and religion, and by the use of online media to disseminate unrealistic content for the sake of acquiring social a...
ex-l

Re: Brahma Kumaris at Abu Rd Shutdown due to Covid-19

19 May 2020

The Alt-Wise ... very good. You ought to trademark that, or write a book with the title so you get the credit for thinking it up. I am guessing you mean "alt-wise" in the same was as people talk about the "alt-right" in political terms? Alt-right (in the US); an ideological group...
ex-l

Re: ex-BK Robert Shubow of Sat Yoga Ashram resurfaces

19 May 2020

But also, speaking for myself here, the teaching part is complimentary to the learning process, then, getting paid for what you are interested in makes more sense than paying for what you are interested in! Reading the discussion forum from above, I note one attendee being 'taken' for nearly $3,000...
ex-l

Re: Brahma Kumaris at Abu Rd Shutdown due to Covid-19

19 May 2020

I've got a feeling that the photo of Gulzar is an old one ... "when she was young and hot looking". But she looks pretty dead. Like the photo of Janki, below. Can you read the Hindi in the newspaper?

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ex-l

Re: ex-BK Robert Shubow of Sat Yoga Ashram resurfaces

19 May 2020

He obviously thinks he offers a better product otherwise why would he be doing it, and why not profit (!) from it personally rather than pay "royalties” :D ? Because he did not want to be dominated by stupid, [old], narrow minded and bigoted women for the whole of his life and, rather than jus...
ex-l

Re: Brahma Kumaris at Abu Rd Shutdown due to Covid-19

19 May 2020

The joke is, the people breaking the law ... are supposedly the most enlightened spiritual beings/BKs in the world.
ex-l

Brahma Kumaris at Abu Rd Shutdown due to Covid-19

19 May 2020

The Brahma Kumaris campus at Abu Rd has been shutdown due to violations of the lockdown caused by Covid-19 , on the order of Sub-Divisional Magistrate Dr. Ravindra Goswami. No vehicle or any other movement inside and outside the main premises are to be allowed without the prior permission of the Ex...
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Re: ex-BK Robert Shubow of Sat Yoga Ashram resurfaces

18 May 2020

Is it significant that both were Jewish? ( Remember also key foundations in BK UK developments, Maureen Goodman and her husband/financier David ). At the same time, I am thinking of other key contemporaries, such as Richard Alpert (aka Baba Ram Dass), Dharma Bum Allen Ginsberg, etc who helped bring ...
ex-l

Re: ex-BK Robert Shubow of Sat Yoga Ashram resurfaces

16 May 2020

My honest response to the atmanology quote is above. As an aside, Shubow is an acronymic surname from the Hebrew shohet u-bodek, meaning a "Slaughterer and Examiner", or similar furier. I wonder how much he is just playing out his Yiddish heritage, both mock rabbinical and as a folk story ...
ex-l

Re: ex-BK Robert Shubow of Sat Yoga Ashram resurfaces

16 May 2020

Oh Dear. Robert Shubow. He used to be such a nice boy. I knew Robert Shubow and his first wife, what happened to her? Presumably went the same way as Lekhraj Kirpalani's first old wife did too? Robert is clearly "following the Father", to quote a BKism, in word and action. "Oh dear&q...
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Re: ex-BK Robert Shubow of Sat Yoga Ashram resurfaces

15 May 2020

And if all that is not enough, here's the punchline ... Robert's younger wife, Janie Howarth, now has a spiritual name. It's Radha Ma (Mother Radhe). Let us not forget, Lekhraj Kirpalani, the married founder of the BKs, also took a younger, attractive follower of his ( while he was God Brahma ) as a...
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