XBK Chat (unofficial archive) A meeting place for past members of Brahma Kumaris    FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Profile   You have no new messages   Log out   Clarity          XBK Chat Forum Index -> Visitors' comments View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Angel1,000000 Guest Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2004 10:45 pm    Post subject: Clarity This site may be encouraging for a number of folk, but it certainly is not in the easy range of 1-5 for people new to the site or who would like to try and respond to a new visitor's message. In addition, the lack of response to new visitors could suggest many things People using the rest of the site certainly take the time, and effort, to elaborate their thoughts, feelings, and reactions. Of course one could perceive these on a scale of emotionally vomitting to cognitively disenabled philosophical dsicusssion. In the between time, what about the direct questions, e.g., from visitors? kyra Joined: 19 Apr 2004 Posts: 66 Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 2:45 pm    Post subject: If there is anything specific on your mind then please ask Joel Joined: 09 Nov 2004 Posts: 102 Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 7:57 pm    Post subject: Re: CLARITY Angel1,000000 wrote: [...]Of course one could perceive these on a scale of emotionally vomitting to cognitively disenabled philosophical dsicusssion.... Hi Angel......... Welcome to the sometimes not-so-subtle regions of XBK Chat. You've used some relatively heavily loaded words here. Is there something you're upset about? I remember as a BK, 'emotionally vomitting' was how Dr. Nirmala and others referred to discussions of feelings other than serviceably positive ones, and of course 'waste talk' for anything unrelated to gyan and service. For those of us with other models for growth, a wider spectrum of self-expression about one's situation can be healthy. In fact, constraints on expression of important self issues among the BKs has led many to leave, including at least one that I know by suicide--and that after weeks of desperately trying to get an audience with Dadi Janki. Some have used this board to frankly discuss hurts they have experienced through typical BK responses to their emotionally charged issues. Here we are willing to discuss something as 'negative' or 'unserviceable' as child abuse within the Brahma Kumaris organization. Similar discussions were deleted from an official BK chat site (Oz). So, welcome to the chat. Feel free to browse. If there is something you want to clarify for yourself and you decide to take the risk of posting something about it here, be prepared for a wider variety of responses than you may get among BKs. Ants need social responses of their peers to survive; they will soon die if isolated. Humans also need a certain quality of mirroring to maintain their sanity. Some find it in the murli, in the company of BKs, in the words of senior brothers and sisters. Others in responses of friends, lovers, co-workers. Still others in speaking of their deepest issues to the silent attentive audience of a 12-step group. And a few out of multimillions, in the glowing computer screens of XBK Chat. Mix and match to suit yourself. Hope that helps. Guest Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 8:15 pm    Post subject: Quote: Similar discussions were deleted from an official BK chat site (Oz). Joel, do you mean the forum of the australian bk's? I was a moderator there quite a time. I started a lot of controversial topics there and in the end I realised that I was not soothed anymore as a moderator on that website for obvious reasons. The funny thing is that no one would be able to provide real answers. I touched on fundamental issues of our beliefs at that time. The power of logic must not be understimated. ps: great post you made I mean that Joel Joined: 09 Nov 2004 Posts: 102 Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2004 9:58 pm    Post subject: Kevin wrote: Quote: Similar discussions were deleted from an official BK chat site (Oz). Joel, do you mean the forum of the australian bk's? I was a moderator there quite a time. I started a lot of controversial topics there and in the end I realised that I was not soothed anymore as a moderator on that website for obvious reasons. The funny thing is that no one would be able to provide real answers. I touched on fundamental issues of our beliefs at that time. The power of logic must not be understimated. Yes, eromain posted a link to it in the thread on child abuse here on XBKs. That link is dead, and I only find fluffy stuff on the Ozzie BK forum. Maybe I missed something. Logic is great, but doesn't necessarily help a person be creative, set their own challenges. Logic can tell me what is wrong with, for example, the US government's decision-making process, but doesn't illuminate a path to bring change. I know because I am good at evaluating logical considerations, but sometimes slow in taking decisions; most significant challenges involve a leap into the unknown, don't you think? btw, glad to hear a bit more about you. Your posts can seem slightly.... incorporeal...uh... in that I hear more about your philosophical experiences and less of the real-world events that I can anchor your ideas to. Have you got much Air/Gemini in your chart? (Me = moon/Taurus, plod plod) Quote: ps: great post you made I mean that Thanks for that. Guest Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2004 10:54 pm    Post subject: I know I'm a bit lazy at the moment in my posts ... not much details but you can read some older ones btw, you probably don't have access to the bk section on the ozzie forum ... that's why you find nothing interesting You know bk's, they always have something to hide, even on a futile forum ... god's exclusive children have many many secrets But I have a secret too: god has been dead for a long time Guest Posted: Sun Dec 19, 2004 7:09 pm    Post subject: ^^^ at least since Nietzsche lol Guest Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2004 7:39 am    Post subject: Omshanti. The discussion forum on the bks aussie website seems to have been deleted. Recently when I tried to view the discussion forum section I was unable to do so. Arjuna poka Joined: 01 Nov 2004 Posts: 6 Location: trinidad Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 2:34 pm    Post subject: aussie bk site. yes , this is missing , i lost contact to it since the Tsunami , last year,and was also trying to log on. any info , did they go to the golden age? _________________ hi , i am seeking info on bk's ,i have started to attend some classes. Display posts from previous: All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First         XBK Chat Forum Index -> Visitors' comments All times are GMT - 5 Hours Page 1 of 1   You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group